: power problems
Black1000RR 06-16-2004, 03:56 PM i am not sure if this is a problem or if it just bothers me!?!? my rr seems to lag a lot in low rpm first gear. like i cannot get it to build enough power to lift the front end until like 6000 rpm. below 5000 it sounds like a manual car that you shifted waaaaaaaayyy to early into fith. ya know what i mean? do they all do this or is it just mine? and whats the storv with the valve in the exhaust midpipe? thatnx in advance for the help!
Have a custom Flywheel machined. That oughta get the wheel up.
gntbldr 06-16-2004, 06:13 PM the exhaust valve works in conjunction with the air box flappers to help create a more linear power curve in the lower rpm range.
you might benefit from one of the mods Stuna has recently done to his 1000.. there is also a couple links near the bottom of the 1st page by LDH that may be able to help you get rid of that annoying bog.
click hereStuna's thread (http://1000rr.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1265)
and Turbo's partly right ( a bit expensive). but if you go up 2 teeth on the rear sprocket or down one on the front you will raise up your rpm by about 400rpm in all gears which will give you Way more low end.
Da999TestastrettaStuna 06-16-2004, 06:19 PM The Flywheel mod will help the motor spin up faster.
There's a company that makes them for Ducati's. I'm not sure about Honda. I'll try to do some homework for you.
Stock flywheel on my bike is 4 pounds, the one I'm having done is about a few ounces. It only runs a couple of hundred dollars but well worth it in my opinion. One of my few little secrets.
gntbldr 06-16-2004, 07:17 PM It only runs a couple of hundred dollars but well worth it in my opinion. One of my few little secrets.
like I said... a bit expensive... :roll: :wink:
and Turbo... that secret has been in the minds of the knowing for quite some time...
mainly for the past 20 yrs in the dirtbiking world since it's super fast and easy to switch them out on them bikes... A bit more work and specialty tools needed for the backyard mechanic to have at on the modern day sportbike...
great advise though. :)
cbrjimmy1KRR 06-16-2004, 07:54 PM if they made those flywheels, they would be made from aluminum....right?
if so, they wouldn't be near as strong and last near as long. it wouldn't be a problem to somebody with the knowledge and the coin (both of which i lack :imslow: ) if it was me, i would make due with the stock flywheel....i just don't think it would be worth the headache.....but what do i know :?
Wheelie 06-16-2004, 08:07 PM WOOOF. weeee
Black1000RR 06-16-2004, 09:09 PM WOW thanks for the input all.. ESPECIALLY YOU WHEELIE THAT WAS MORE THAN HELPFUL ... LOL
Wheelie 06-16-2004, 09:42 PM j/k with you, what about a TRE? weeeeee
Da1000RRStuna 06-16-2004, 10:38 PM if you cant throttle that bitch up in 1st or 2nd you need some riding leasons,my class begins on the 20th 10am sharp!! its only a $50 sign up fee :wink:
Anonymous 06-17-2004, 07:30 AM man sex
Black1000RR 06-17-2004, 11:55 AM i know .... my r6 went up easier than this does ... i think it is broke?!
2003gsxr750 07-08-2004, 11:15 AM you are right. the 04 honda 1000rr has a big i mean BIG power lag in it. if you get the bike in 1st gear at about 30 mph and pin it wide open it doesnot move that much intel you get to 9,000 rpm then it takes off like a rocket. Now is there anything to do to take it log away? like my suzuki has timing retarted on it does the honda? if so is there a tre for it? if so were can i get it? thanks for the help.
Hammerdown 07-08-2004, 12:44 PM not knowing the spec exactly the swing arm is a lot longer than most bikes. I believe I read that its 1.5" longer that other 1000s this year. essentialy your trying to do something that engineers didnt want it to do.
you are right. the 04 honda 1000rr has a big i mean BIG power lag in it. if you get the bike in 1st gear at about 30 mph and pin it wide open it doesnot move that much intel you get to 9,000 rpm then it takes off like a rocket. Now is there anything to do to take it log away? like my suzuki has timing retarted on it does the honda? if so is there a tre for it? if so were can i get it? thanks for the help. you say cruise at 30 and pinned it wide open and it doesnt move.. i got to call BS on that one. i do that on mine an my RR just takes the fuck off and starts to lift off the ground a good bit
Truck 07-08-2004, 04:57 PM Thats hard to believe :!: the 54 comes up at anywhere in the rpm range in first. 2nd is fairly easy to get up too. But I did read that they didnt desighn the 1000 for wheelies and wanted to engeneer it to stay on the ground. 8)
Thats hard to believe :!: the 54 comes up at anywhere in the rpm range in first. 2nd is fairly easy to get up too. But I did read that they didnt desighn the 1000 for wheelies and wanted to engeneer it to stay on the ground. 8)its not designed to come up but it will. the suspension and swing arm are reasons why it stays planted. but it will rise up on its own..
the bike has a smooth power curve all the way up to 11,200 rpms. no dips in the curve.so i dont see how the bike is just flat and doesnt move
Truck 07-08-2004, 07:21 PM Does the power curve remind you of a twin or like an 02 R1 only with a little more rear end. 8)
resuscit8u 07-08-2004, 09:20 PM I agree, it comes right the fuck up!! lotsa low down power
2003gsxr750 07-09-2004, 04:03 AM you are right. the 04 honda 1000rr has a big i mean BIG power lag in it. if you get the bike in 1st gear at about 30 mph and pin it wide open it doesnot move that much intel you get to 9,000 rpm then it takes off like a rocket. Now is there anything to do to take it log away? like my suzuki has timing retarted on it does the honda? if so is there a tre for it? if so were can i get it? thanks for the help. you say cruise at 30 and pinned it wide open and it doesnt move.. i got to call BS on that one. i do that on mine an my RR just takes the fuck off and starts to lift off the ground a good bit
You need to get your mind right. You do a 30 mph roll agenst a zx-10,04R1,or a gsxr1000 and you will see how a 1000 should take off. now i was wrong about the rpm number. it is at 5500 rpm in first gear when the 1000rr comes to life. now i am not saying the bike is slow because it anit but it does not have the lowend that a 1000cc bike should have. Now the top end of the rpm range is GREAT but below 5500 rpm it does NOT run. hell the 954 have a shit load of lowend but not that good of top end and now the 1000rr is just the opposite.
BTW is was asking if yall know if there is a tre for this bike?
resuscit8u 07-09-2004, 07:29 AM been there done that got the t-shirt. Working on the bumper sticker.
At low rpms, I have consistently walked away from the other 04s, they do catch and begin to pass up higher though
GeNeRaL 07-09-2004, 09:26 AM as mentioned above and to add to it....
from what i've researched, this bike is designed as a race bike. it is designed to minimize wheelies intentionally with the unit pro-link suspention, the fuel injection, the ram air system, the exhaust valve, and the longer swing arm. The dual stage fuel injection works in a way that controls it at lower rpm on takeoff so that it doesn't just all on flood in. once the rpm's reach 5500, then the second set of injectors kick in. The ram air is somewhat similar, where the ecu tells it what to allow for air at what rpm. this makes for much larger air intake in the midrange and high range of rpms.
Hammerdown 07-09-2004, 12:12 PM beautifully put general. I do know that Yamaha's low end is way lower the the honda I believe it might have a taller firest gear too.
Black1000RR 07-09-2004, 06:10 PM i am not knocking the bike at all i love everything about and i agree that is is designed not to do weelies but to go fast and the power on mine really comes on at about 40mph (don't know rmp off hand) but i want the 0- to 30 to increase
olderRR. 07-09-2004, 06:44 PM DAMN! This has GOT to be something 'that particular bike' related. As was stated, the 54 comes right on up, and the 54 has a fairly smooth power band also. There's no gigantic surge or anything. With so much more power than the 54, the 1000 has got to come up, designed to or not. I've ridden one twice. Didn't really get on it too hard as it is a good friends, but I didn't notice any lags. All I noticed was "HOLY SHIT"!!
resuscit8u 07-09-2004, 09:19 PM I still walk around in a shit eating grin coated daze every time I get off of mine.
Wonder if the tires are too cold and you are spinning? Just a thought. I have broken the rear end loose with the throttle on cold tires with this bike. It will do it.
2003gsxr750 07-16-2004, 02:24 AM i am not knocking the bike at all i love everything about and i agree that is is designed not to do weelies but to go fast and the power on mine really comes on at about 40mph (don't know rmp off hand) but i want the 0- to 30 to increase
i am with you my 1000rr has some 0-30 but it feels like there could be more. Now the bike can still do some nice wheelies and all that is not the ? and hell my old 600 can light up a cold tire. the first few weeks i had my bike i did not even know the bike had the gut less lowend untel a friend was talking about it on his new rr.
btw i just bought a micron slip on for it (it will be in next week :D :D :D :D ) and has woundering what to do with the flipper thing that is on the stock pipe?
with my 2bros pipe, it did away with the valve
new_rr_owner 08-27-2004, 11:35 PM I rode an 87 hurricane 1000 and it had more bottom, but in no way am I complaining, the topend comes on with an insane pull. I like the way it is linear, it makes for trackable power for the turns without losin it.. And I can get the front wheel up at about 6000 with just a roll on at 30. For me it is the fastest thing I ever rode, and until I get used to it I'm happy for now.
Black1000RR 08-28-2004, 02:11 AM and some forum lurker to start it all again months later ... LOL
new_rr_owner 08-28-2004, 11:01 AM hence the name new_rr_owner. I'm just trying to throw my 2 cents in. I'm sure another newbie wouldn't mind seeing another post with some info on it.
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