Ok heres the scenerio, I haven't ridden the bike in a month I just start it up evry other week or every couple days or so and let it idle and rev it up a little and the other day the battery was dead so I put a trickle charger on it overnight, started it up this morning and it ran fine, came home from work today and started it up, it sounded kinda rough and different than usual, just figured maybe it was cold well let it warm up and the bike soounds like a VFR, has got a deep tone doesn't seem like it has that high pitched sound as before so I do a couple of burnouts in the garage to see if this thing wil bust out under load and it hesitaes right off idle a little, the gas in the bike is about two and a half months old I think,I thought maybe a plug is fouled because all I do is crank it up and let it idle a little and rev it up, the bike is all stock except for a Two Brother's slip on can. Plesae any help would be appreciated, the check engine light hasn't came on yet if that helps.

You shouldnt be using that gasoline at all.... Replace the gas and plugs and you should be ok.....

thanks for the info how do I drain the old gas out or can I just mix in some new 93 octane, are the plugs a bitch to replace what all is involved

Take off the tank and the airbox to get to the plugs. Drain all the gas out and only use new fuel I am not sure on draining the fuel on this bike because I have never had to do it but do whatever it takes even if you have to remove the fuel pump assy to do it...

so I can pull the airbox out of the way to get to the plugs the owners manual said to pull the fairing off and drop the radiator down, that seemed like that would be the hard way to do it, I pulled the tank loose and flipped it up and seen the airbox and stoppe ddidn't want to just keep ripiin and grippin if you know what I mean so I can cange the plugs that way you think, si that what it sound like to you

take the top of the airbox off and then take off the bottom half of the air box. you should see screws around the velosity stacks... If you cant get to it that way then you mught have to go the way the service manual says but at least you can check your airfilter while you are at it.

Starting your bike for a few minutes and killing it will foul the plugs! weeeeee

that was my first thought when it started to run like crap, so if the weather sucks and you can't ride is it better to just let it sit and not run the bike until the weather clears up again

is it better to just let it sit and not run the bike until the weather clears up again

It's better to winterize the bike. Sta-ble mixed in a full tank of gas and run. Battery on a trickle charger. Put the bike on stands if you can. You should be fine. Some people I know take out the plugs and spray some wd-40 into the cylinders so they don't rust. It's up to you how far your willing to go.



Starting your bike for a few minutes and killing it will foul the plugs

Yes it will. If you do start it up now and then you should run it for a while, not a few minutes. I know people who do that and have no problems.

I always winterize. It's not that difficult.

take a large straw, insert into tank, blow hard :)

Fuck winterizing you might as well ride that beetch......

Fuck winterizing you might as well ride that beetch

Fuck paying for insurance Dec, Jan, Feb. Not much riding done where I'm at.

i know exactly what you are talking aboot, that same shit happened with me in the middle of the summer, bike being the same age, ran it daily, one day in the middle of summer after id already ridden it for aboot an hour i went to start it after work and shit was doing exactly what you said, it quit it after a while, i figered whatever, warranty if anything goes wrong

I try to ride mine as much as I can, but it's hard to do with snow and slush on the road. :P

So I let mine run about an hour or so a week... till I see 50 degrees again, then I'll have to go ride in a tshirt! Fuckin winter!

so pip you didn't change your plugs you just ran the bike and it eventually cleared up itself

That is not the right way to do it.... Just fukin do it already or its never gona get done.....

so pip you didn't change your plugs you just ran the bike and it eventually cleared up itself

If the bike isn't running right, than fix it. It's not worth it to run it and possibly fuck it up even more.

That is not the right way to do it.... Just fukin do it already or its never gona get done.....

EXACTLY!!!

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ok fellas don't get so hostile about it, damn just want the easiest way out without having to tear the bike all the way down to do it, thanks again on the advice

I am not being hostle, i'm just trying to tell you that you are not going to hurt anything by just getting in there and doin it up... Just take your time and remember the steps you are taking and you will be fine.

and pound a sixer while doing it so you can also learn from some mistakes too... :lol:


it's all really no biggey... My only help is to say magnetize your screw drivers and if anything falls don't panic... Listen and locate. :wink:

you guys are douchebags, you act like these bikes are some fuckin technological breakthrough, they are underpowered overweight abuse machines, some sputtering never did shit, i mean, if he sunk like a few grand into the motor, maybe i could see caring, but whatever, its just a fuckin bike, it goes, nothing is truly static, so sometimes engine performance will fluctuate, whatever
which reminds me i gotta ask something

ok pip ask it, oh yeah thousands are spent on the motor and I don't have lots of money at all and the bike still belongs to the bank if you know what I mean, thats why I want to be carefull, as far as underpowered who are you kidding the hp to liter ratio is outstanding

what about the thousands put into the bike to begin with pip..... Can you afford to just fuck up your bike because it was running on 3 cylinders while the plugs are fouled... By the way fould plugs dont correct themselves.

war n t
aside from which, anyone can afford it, and i dont know what kinda scooter you been riding, but 130 rwhp to aboot 430 on road lbs is not a good ratio
shit, anybody can slap together a high compression inline 4 making 3-500 hp and you put some carbon composite shit all over and you got 375 lbs, look at race bikes, they have decent power to weight ratios, you think major manufacturers are gonna let monkeys ride around on fuckin rockets, hell no, they dont trust us, period

130 rwhp to aboot 430 on road lbs is not a good ratio


Well Pip, It's a whole hell of alot better than most of the cars out and about. My car has like 130 hp, and how much does it weigh??? at least 3000 lbs i'd guess....

And most "rocket" power to weight ratios are close to each other.

so pip what you are saying is that any stock crotch rocket is a joke as far as performance, well if thats is the case why aren't you a pro rider, or maybe you are just posing on the board as a major dickhead, hey man stick to the thread title, and if you can't fuck off know it all, all I wanted was a little advice and help, not a pissing match

Maybe I am missing simething here Pip but what does your comment have to do with this topic????

arent you a testy pisser, i never said i know it all wanker, but im not blind, anyone who pays attention can easily recognize the technology is readily available, companys are just fuckin pansy assed about letting us have it, fuck pretending we got lots of powr, we dont

well fellas installed the new plugs last night after work, that is what was wrong with it, sure am glad of that, sure learned a lesson on starting the bike up and not riding it, or running it and cutting it off, dang sure will foul some plugs, well hopefully this will not happen again, thanks for all the help guys

Thankya Thankya very much (elvis voice). weeeeeee

well fellas installed the new plugs last night after work, that is what was wrong with it, sure am glad of that, sure learned a lesson on starting the bike up and not riding it, or running it and cutting it off, dang sure will foul some plugs, well hopefully this will not happen again, thanks for all the help guys

So wich way did you change em? Through the front or from the top???

do not take the fairings off, i don't think that would have helped at all, pulled the gas tank loose, tied it back, removed airbox lid, removed velocity stacks, pulled lower airbox loose did not remove just moved up to access the cam cover, removed the individuals coils and then the plugs, thanks for the advice on doing it this way, tried to do it this way before I started the thread or read the owner's manual but when I pulled the gas tank up I seen the airbox and thought no way that got to be a pain to take off, so I looked in the manual and it said to remove both bottom fairings and loosen the radiator to access the plugs, but that is definitely not the easy way, go through the top if you are gonna do it, thanks again fellas

Sometimes I think that Honda has sugested ways to do things that increase time and increases the bill......

manufacturerers definitely DO NOT want you to work on your own shit :x :x :x
no money in it for their support crew....sales , service and parts guys