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: New Engine Break In Procedure (hard style)


By-Tor
02-28-2005, 01:57 PM
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

954pilot
03-02-2005, 09:41 AM
Anyone going to comment on this procedure? What do you tech guys think of this info?

By-Tor
03-02-2005, 10:58 AM
That's how I broke in the 1000RR. Seemed to work fine for me. No oil consumption after 1300 miles. No smoke. Can't say if it has any more power than any other stock 1000RR because I will never dyno it. That's also pretty much the same way that I broke in my 4000EX quad when I bought it in 2000. When I dug into the motor to put in the high compression piston, the stock stuff looked brand new and clean. No oil consumption on the quad either.

Wheelie
03-02-2005, 05:30 PM
Would you want to by a used bike broke in like that, or one broke in by the book? weeeee

By-Tor
03-02-2005, 11:36 PM
That's how we always broke in the engines we built up for the race trucks we built for the NMRO Tuff Truck Series. When we tear them down to build them up bigger as the class rules change we find no problems and everything falls right in spec with all guages and micrometers.

Just my experience though. No really easy way to break in a race engine unless you run flat tappet lifters. Then you have to break in the cam shaft. We always ran rollers so that wasn't an issue.

gntbldr
03-02-2005, 11:53 PM
Would you want to by a used bike broke in like that, or one broke in by the book? weeeee

if it came down to that I'd buy the one broken in motoman's way.

because I know that the one boken in all gentle like would only break that much easier. speaking from exp...

adrenalinjunkee
03-09-2005, 07:09 AM
Would you want to by a used bike broke in like that, or one broke in by the book? weeeee

if it came down to that I'd buy the one broken in motoman's way.

because I know that the one boken in all gentle like would only break that much easier. speaking from exp...

:eek: I agree witrh you Gnt. Although I would never buy a used bike because most people don't have a clue how to maintain it properly, anyway. :wink:

sacRED
04-06-2005, 12:02 AM
Would you want to by a used bike broke in like that, or one broke in by the book? weeeee

Personally, I haven't purchased a used bike. With that aside, I just ride a new bike... vary the RPM's. Don't lug the motor, and yes bring it up on some RPM.

Also with that said. I do possess a degree of mechanical sympathy. The more important item is heat cycles. Bring the motor up the temp, work it thru the RPM range; then I allow it to cool thoroughly. Repeat. This is not a '66 Chevy Impala we're talking about. Rather a very well crafted and assembled motor.

What does Honda most caution the new buyer about: brakes & tires! They have tonnes of confidence in their ability to build a sound machine.

yellowrocket21
04-06-2005, 08:44 PM
best break in tip ever--"ride it like u stole it" :D

CrashTestDummie
04-07-2005, 07:35 AM
lol

adrenalinjunkee
04-07-2005, 01:48 PM
best break in tip ever--"ride it like u stole it" :D

Is that a tip from Stuna? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Luvfender
04-21-2005, 03:37 PM
I also used this procedure and have no smoke, and only 600 miles so I'm not sure if she's burning oil, none so far anyway. The one comment I read against this is that Motoman tears 'em up racing and doesn't consider long mileage bikes... :roll:


I have to say that I broke my first couple of bikes in by the manual and it sucked going that slow for 500 miles :twisted:

Wheelie
05-02-2005, 05:13 PM
I break-in my bikes in between hard and easy, I dont baby it and I dont reem it, SouthWestSuperbikes had a Dyno shoot out two weeks ago, I only stayed for 30 bikes out of 80, Gixxie Dyno'ed 155, the highest out of the 03-04's that I saw, they were around 147, saw a Sudco piped 04 GSXR-1000 do 151, I cant say how the break-in their bikes, could have been moto-tune way? im not a believer in moto-reem break-ins. I was pleased. wee

Anonymous
05-02-2005, 06:02 PM
no matter how you break it in its a downhill battle if you ride it hard anyhow

i mean hard

C420sailor
05-09-2005, 04:59 PM
i mostly agree with moto-tune. i believe that cranking the throttle wide open is very important for break in, but i don't think that you need to rev the tits off it to do so. the key is to constantly load the rings by varying the throttle constantly between accel and decel, and smacking that throttle wide open in the taller gears. running her to the limiter in 1st or 2nd is just a bad idea until she's fully broken in.

sands
06-06-2005, 03:25 AM
Actually it's not a new method...It's just a method that's not commonly known.

I've broken in my bikes this way since the early 90's..Used to race motocross and we did top end jobs all the time...Did this break in procedure on many new top ends...Everytime we pulled the cylinder off after a few hard races and practice it still looked brand new, like it didn't need a new piston and rings but we did it anyway to ensure top performance...My practice bike rarely got new top ends and when we decided to do one it still looked new...Never had an engine related failure except for a clutch went out a couple of times (high revving 125's need lots of clutch abuse). I'm talking about bikes with constant full throttle operation and only letting off the gas for brief moments in the air.

It's really not a hard break in..Harder than what the manual says but not the idea that commonly comes to most peoples mind when you mention the phrase "hard break in".

You don't just get on the bike and start redlining like crazy...You use brief bursts of full throttle, just enough to cover most of the rpm range and as soon as the revs get into the top end of the rpms you let off...shift to 2nd....give it another brief burst and quickly let off...shift to 3rd...brief full throttle and let off...quickly downshift to first to let the engine braking take effect to suck off the oil...repeat a few times and let the bike cool off a bit.

Broke in my RC51 this way...Ran strong for an RC and never used any oil, no smoking or anything. Broke it in hard but within a methodical purposeful manner.

xrcrx
06-10-2005, 02:15 AM
My Repsol had about 2k on it when I took it to TWS on the 23rd and there was a 04 R-1 and a ZX-10 in my group.I passed both on the main straight, neither one ever passed me. The ZX-10 owner said he expected to work back around me in the straight after I passed in the infield but that the RR just pulled away in the straight and he couldn't catch me. Maybe not a scientific study but I'm convinced.

Eric
05 Repsol
00 TLR

xrcrx
06-10-2005, 05:27 AM
I forgot to mention that I followed the mototune procedure from the first time I started it.

Eric
05 Repsol
00 TLR

Nycs 1000
06-14-2005, 09:51 AM
we know by-tor likes it the hard way..huh nate..

By-Tor
06-14-2005, 09:53 AM
I also like little red heads :oops: :lol: