: Not too impressed with 1000
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:05 PM I just got my new issue of motorcyclist in the mail and they road tested the 1000rr with the stats they gave the 1000 ran a 10.27 in the quater and a 60-80 roll on of 3.07 seconds. the 954 ran a 10.20 and a 60-80 roll on of 2.70, which must mean the 954 power wise must not be that bad. I expected so much more.
Wheelie 03-07-2004, 05:09 PM Roll on's dont mean a thing, 10:20 on a 954? I'd like to see that! I had a 01 Gixxer 1000, only went 1/4 mile racing once, 10:29@139mph. weeee
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:14 PM look in the back of the motorcyclist they list all there performance stats they have recorded
Wheelie 03-07-2004, 05:14 PM Times could be slowdue to rider, but mph tells about horsepower. What was the mph? weeee
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:14 PM 954 138 1000 140
Wheelie 03-07-2004, 05:16 PM I have a 954 and I know it will not go 10.20! maybe with peewee Gleason on it. weee
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:17 PM besides the obvious top speed advantage of the 1000 i wonder how much of a difference there really is?
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:18 PM It seems the redesigned bikes are not that impressive to the previous generation, I wonder if thery are hitting a performance ceiling.
Wheelie 03-07-2004, 05:19 PM Get another opinion. weeee
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:22 PM All the reviews have been pretty similar, there not to far from eachother on stats, Hey untill you ride the bike we'll probably not know. I love the 954 and who knows how the 1000 would be.
Wheelie 03-07-2004, 05:29 PM 153bhp 1000rr vs 139bhp for the 954. You be the judge. The slower time on the 1000 is because the rider couldnt keep the front tire on the ground. weeeee
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:49 PM Hey there all nice bikes there all fast, I just expected more thats all. :wink:
Da1000RRStuna 03-07-2004, 05:52 PM all these 1000 are very close to each other,its all rider..
but when it comes to all around performance we all know the Honda has the edge,its just a better machine!! witch one has 1 or 2 more HP,more top speed,what does it matter? its a fuckin street bike,aint noone using any of these bikes to there fullest except me :D hahahaha..
every mag has there own opinions,each bike(same brand)is different,youll get one 1000rr that puts out 146 and another that puts out 144..
everyone talks like there gonna go some where and do something on these bikes,you fuckin guys are gonna pull 3 mile wheelies and pose at the local bike hang outs,you dont need 150HP to do that 8)
you watch that superstock race? the R1' and the ZX10 were all neck and neck,it came down to know had the better draft pass..
but in superbike you notice how the 1000rr had the fastest top end,noone was passing them on the banking,RAW power :wink:
matt954 03-07-2004, 05:56 PM I think you missed my point. I know i don't use the bike to it's fullest I just expected the test numbers to be more impressive than the 954. not regress.
Da1000RRStuna 03-07-2004, 06:21 PM no I heard you..I was just saying a few facts..but the 954 doesnt do 10.2 in the 1/4..
matt954 03-07-2004, 06:33 PM Read the mag, the page called hard numbers. Does that mean none of there bike stats are correct? I emailed the magazine and reinforced there numbers on speeds and times since I asked them about top speeds and they said they do it with a radar gun. I believe them since i have seen people on the net run 10.20s 10.30s in the quater.
Niner54 03-07-2004, 07:41 PM It's quite common for a Superbike to suffer clutch damage at Daytona; the tall gearing required to propel the bike past 188mph, accelerate in the draft and perform multiple starts makes life hard on clutch parts.
from: amasuperbike.com, on Ben's clutch problem.
Anonymous 03-07-2004, 09:28 PM The problem with all the reviews is they cant be trusted because of all the money in advertising in the publications that are reviewing them.
Wheelie 03-07-2004, 11:34 PM Everyone on the net is faster, take sTuna for an example.LOL. weeee
Da1000RRStuna 03-08-2004, 12:04 AM I said it a long time ago..fuck the mags!! but the HP they are showing sound about right..
I would like to know where they testes the top end..you need more then 1 mile to really tap out 6th gear..it will get close to top speed pretty fast but you need alot of room to really rev out 6th to it max..when you topped out and your looking at the RPM gauge you try hard to stick that shit in the red,tucking in you elbow,your big you fat head deeper into the windscreen,sticking half your ass on the rear seat..you try everything to hit top speed..im sure these bikes had some more to go,unless somewhere some how these mags tested them on a city high somewhere :roll:
they said the 600rr did 159 or 160? the gps said 164, yeah it would go any faster untill I started playing with my body positioning and the speed jumpped up to 172..yeah i know 172 :roll: but the gps said 164..it took a few miles to hit it.. :wink:
trust me on that..MILES!!!!
Niner54 03-08-2004, 10:38 AM In person the bike is SWEET, forget the HP numbers ride the damn thing, did you get the 954 because it had the most HP? Obviously not because it didn't it was just the best all around bike as will the 1000RR.
Sitting on that thing it just feels awesome :worship:
Friction954 03-08-2004, 10:52 AM it took a few miles to hit it..
trust me on that..MILES!!!!
i saw 186 on the speedometer one time on my 54, i was running from a cop. at a quick glance it looked like i had about 1500 rpms to go... but you're right stunna, that was over about 1 mile 1/2 distance before i turned off the highway onto a back road.
Da1000RRStuna 03-08-2004, 12:45 PM you got all these guys on gixxer 1000's scratching there heads wonder why my 954 passed them or why they couldnt walk away from me..#1 reason they dont know how to tuck in and #2 they dont know what the draft is :wink:
same thing with my 600RR,yeah they do walk away but I still catch that draft and go by they in the sweepers,but if its a 3-4 mile straight i cant do shit :D
you got all these guys on gixxer 1000's scratching there heads wonder why my 954 passed them or why they couldnt walk away from me..#1 reason they dont know how to tuck in and #2 they dont know what the draft is :wink:
same thing with my 600RR,yeah they do walk away but I still catch that draft and go by they in the sweepers,but if its a 3-4 mile straight i cant do shit :D
My thoughts exactly, I can't wait to get out there on my underpowered Ducati. They're gonna be shocked as hell when I pass them in the sweepers and down 20-30hp.
Wheelie 03-08-2004, 04:38 PM I just got my MotorCyclist mag, the reason the times were slower, cause of wheel spin and or wheelies. sound to me like it has that stupid clutch they use to put on the Busa's, impossible to slip the clutch when launching. The mph should be close even with a good or bad launch, I would think it would run 10.00 or 10.10 with a good launch. weeeeee
aspen 05-31-2004, 01:38 AM I have read a dozen different reviews and they are all different. Go try the bike for yourself. Iam sure you will see that the thing hauls ass
Truck 05-31-2004, 08:49 AM Dont trust the mags :!: They lie :!: Look at it this way, they are getting paid by the manufactures to give you those stats. So it stands to reason they hipe em up. For example a couple of issuse ago they quoted saying that the big gix was embarassingly beaten by the honda which was less than a second faster in a quarter. LESS THAN A SECOND and they call that embarasing. Dont trust the mags :! They lie :!:
The truth is and stunna said it, Its all the rider. Ive rode with the big gix and the boy couldnt ride. I smoked him. I rode with the all new mighty zx-10 and smoked him. I rode the other day with a 02 R1 and smoked him. Its all about who has the biggest balls, but remember that having the biggest balls can come at a price, a very high price, so be careful and dont ride above youre head. :wink:
By-Tor 05-31-2004, 12:20 PM Right on Truck! If the new bikes were not "all That and then some", then the manufacturers would not have replaced the old "all that and then some's". The new bikes might not seem to be all that impressive on the streets because the majority of the consumers could not handle the old bike they came off of and the new one scares them even more. When ridden to its max, I'm sure these bikes would drop the jaws of even the seasoned rider. Bottom line, you have to push the bike, the bike will not push you. If you never push the bike, It does not really matter if you are on an old 900rr or a 1000rr. The only difference would be the styling and bling points.
GeNeRaL 05-31-2004, 04:57 PM heres the bottom line: magazines are influenced by money. How can you state that you aren't impressed with a 1000RR if you don't ride one? that is all. :)
Da1000RRStuna 05-31-2004, 06:51 PM im happy with my 1000RR..fuck the mags!! all these bikes are all about the same in enigne performance..but with the Honda your getting a better built machine..trust me..I messed with the zx10 and its a piece of shit and the new R1..the Gixxer 1000 is simple and easy to work on,very easy and it performs great!! the 1000RR was also put together great and some what easy to work on ,except pullin off the tank cover and removing the full pump to take the tank completely off :roll: to remove the top fuel injectors to remove the air box to get to the plugs :x plus its just a more reliable machine..
the zx10 and r1's are tight to mess with..in other words "THEY SUCK" ill take a Gixxer 1000 over a zx10 anb r1 anyday of the week..Honda is allways my #1 choice.. :D
most of Honda's 1000RR extra weight comes from the swingarm,low end heavy not top so you really dont noice the weight and the exhaust,but the Akrapovic took care of that :wink:
bottm line the Honda will out live all the above and still whoop that ass.. :D
nutty954rr 05-31-2004, 08:36 PM i race out here in california and not many of the racers are on hondas and the ones that are are not even close to the front of the pack but my 54 has walked on several of the new 1000's on the track as well as the new r1's also my buddies 02 r1 has walked all over the new r1's that are out here racing so i agree the new bikes performance is not that impresive. if you like your 54 keep it you wont find a flat out better bike but if you must have the newest and latest machine with all the new technology then you cant go wrong with any of the new bikes.
Da1000RRStuna 05-31-2004, 11:07 PM on the track? most racers on 600's will smoke 1000's.racing a 1000 on the track all out takes alot of skills..not tomany club racers or trackday racer wannabes can ride one of these machines all out..
its all rider!! all these bikes are about equal in performance..
nutty954rr 06-01-2004, 08:08 AM i race willow springs were the 1000's are faster then the 600's and yes you are right the 1000's due take alot of skill to race hard. im sure that in october during the toyota two hundred chuck graves will go by me on a new r1 like im standing still but thats chuck he is one of the fastest guys on this track but last your he was bet by two suzuki's
Anonymous 06-01-2004, 11:45 AM my metro bus does the 1/4 in 32.423 seconds, bling
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