If you've been thinking about dropping a tooth on your bike I would definetely recommend it. Took the bike out today for my first ride of the season after changing the sprocket and putting everything back together. I couldn't get the smile off my face. Holy shit does the bike pull hard! It wheelied before with little effort, now its like a flick of the wrist. 2nd and 3rd gear wheelies is easy with the new gearing. The rpm's don't seem that far off from how it was before, it just feels like the bike wants to launch. Didn't get to really practice that much today, but I need more time with it to see how it acts in the higher gears. It just feels like a totally different bike!!!

You have the best color combo i see..HAHAHAH

Red is always FASTER! :)

I will be dropping a tooth on mine as well. :wink:

Did that mod last year...love it.

now do the 1100XX shifter swap...it's just as good of a mod :)

At the risk of sounding ignorant, what is the xxshifter swap?

Truck, taking it down a tooth will be the best $60 dollars you ever spent on the bike. The more I ride the more I am impressed with how hard it pulls. My boy who has a busa rode it and said it feels like a different bike and that's how Honda should have had it from the start. Third gear standups are easy, first gear is sick you just roll the throttle and second feels like first use to feel. It is unbelievable!

Well now youve got me exited. Ill be ordering mine this week. What type did you get.
Most of the track junkies I know say to go with renthal. :wink:

First of all sweet avatar!!! Yeah the Renthal, thats what I went with. You won't be disappointed!

changes the shifting pattern to 1 up, 5 down and gets rid of all that linkage. Much better feel.

Oh Ok. That would take some getting used too. Sorry Meatstick, my avitar will give avitar envy so im gonna have to get it a little smaller. Im haveing trouble doing that.

Im gonna go -1 +2 next paycheck...Dunno if I want a 520 yet though

Got my new sprocket ill install it and ride this weekend, Ill let you know what I think :wink:

How much top end will you lose on the track when you drop a tooth? I don't ride much on the street.

Not much, bout 5 mph i think :wink:

Who did you get the sprocket from? Was it the best deal you could find? I want to do this to my 1000RR.

Local friend, 24 bucks. :wink:

Cool, thats about what I'm finding after shipping.

Cheapest and easiest HP gains you can get. Look at it this way, if you dont like it then just swap it back. I think youll like the difference. Ill bet that this is how the Kawi and zook is beating it on HP, honda is notorious for over gearing. I cant believe how much it helpled mine. Now id just like to have a speedo healer. :wink:

Cheapest and easiest HP gains you can get. Look at it this way, if you dont like it then just swap it back. I think youll like the difference. Ill bet that this is how the Kawi and zook is beating it on HP, honda is notorious for over gearing. I cant believe how much it helpled mine. Now id just like to have a speedo healer. :wink:

there are no HP gains from changing the gearing, but it does feel like it because it pulls harder. :wink:

15 tooth for sale, no more than a few hundred miles on it....pm me.

(unless these fit on the 1000RR?)

Cheapest and easiest HP gains you can get. Look at it this way, if you dont like it then just swap it back. I think youll like the difference. Ill bet that this is how the Kawi and zook is beating it on HP, honda is notorious for over gearing. I cant believe how much it helpled mine. Now id just like to have a speedo healer. :wink:

there are no HP gains from changing the gearing, but it does feel like it because it pulls harder. :wink:

Your right when refering to the motor, What your doing is putting more of the motors HP to the ground. Thats where its at anyway. :wink:

Can you go -1 +2 with the stock chain? I thought this would cause the chain to dig into the swingarm.
I'm thinking about going -1, but just got my custom map done and don't want to pay for another one to measure the HP difference after going -1.

I don't think you will gain any power from sprockets. I think a top # on hp would stay the same either way. with different gearing you may get to that hp faster but thats about it.

Truck did you go with the Renthal sprocket? I told you it would be awesome. Honda should have done this from the start for sure. If anybody is contemplating doing this mod, I would say this will be one mod that will make your 954 feel like a different bike! I still can't believe how hard it pulls!

No just an ordinary steel one. Yea I agree, it brought this thing to real life. Cant wait to ride with my brother on his R1, bet he dont pull on me anymore.
I love it, just roll on 2nd and the front comes up, third give a little yank at the right rpm and she comes up.
Have you figured out what the mph difference is?

Not yet. From what I've been told by a guy who has been working on bikes for 20 some years he said not much off the top end. What's a stock 954, 180mph, now it might be 170 something. No big deal to me, I'll never see those speeds unless I would go to a track. The fastest I ever went was around 160 and it got there pretty damn fast. I dropped a tooth to make the bike more wheelie happy. I'm totally happy with it now.

What do you think about my avitar?

I did 178 indicated in fith a couple of days ago. Havent toped 6th out yet 8)

Mine seems faster on top end than it did before. Maybee cause it took so long to get there and now it gets there pretty quick. :wink:

I take it you were close to redline in 5th. That is freaking moving. Were you on a good stretch of road or a track?

Yup and actually i missed the shift to 6th. I shifted but it didnt go in and I didnt realize that I was still in 5th.

I would think that in 6th you'll be over 180mph. The speedometer is probably off by a few, but not much. The 1000rr isn't that much faster. The 954 is a bad machine!!!!

It definatly is now. I went to shady Valley TN last weekend and got to ride with a guy on a new gix1K. He couldnt keep up with our group. Im sure it would of been a lot quicker with a better rider on it but he never hardly even saw my tail lights.
Now that ive done the regear it definatly is pushin my big rear end as fast as I want to go.
Hows the misses doin on the 600? You got her any leathers yet? :wink:

Hey wheres that pic you got to work, Id like to use it.

She's doing good. She's still riding in a big parking lot, only been on the bike twice and I have her shifting from 1st to 2nd. Going to wait a little longer till she is comfortable enough to hit the streets. I haven't bought her any leathers yet, trying to decide what she wants.

Here's your picture.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid165/pcf6315208e563a590d0433554bfe2614/f4638d72.jpg

Well I've decided to go down a tooth on the front of my 1000RR (I know this is the wrong forum :lol: ) and go up one on the rear. I'll do the front sprocket right away and hold off on the rear until my first trackday. I'll get a few sessions in with just the front, then switch out the rear 41 tooth for a 42 to see what i like best. The lower gearing will allow me to get the bike into 4th gear on the back straight at Loudon. Last year on the 954 I would hit the limiter in 3rd and If I tried to short shift to 4th I would have to downshift to 3rd right away as the straight is too short.

Funny story from my trip to the bike shop today............


I stoped by my local bike shop to pick up some oil, filter and get a price on the sprockets. I told the parts guy that I wanted to go down a tooth in the front and up a tooth in the rear and gave him the tooth count for each sprocket.

He tells me " They will cancel each other out so I might as well keep the stock sprockets"

So me to him........ "I'll just take the oil and filter please........"

And I got the hell out of there for fear that his stupidity might be contagious

counter monkey

Thanks for the avitar work meatstick! Sounds like your doing the right thing with the misses. Break her in the right way we dont want to be staying up late with you in prayer for her. Any who I couldnt be happier with what ive done with the gear. Honestly for now I cant even imagine going up any on the back sprocket. Ill have to get used to this one first. Did you notice that the shifting got a lot better when you did the sprocket? Man its made my bike such a better machine in the power, shifting and now wheelies. I cant believe I pulled a 85mph power wheelie. The vett in front of me thought it was good too as he spead up so he could watch me ride it out. 2nd comes up with just a twist of the wrist now. Oh and if I want to spin it up comming out of the curves, well I have to watch it now cause shell spin out from under me.

Oh by the way have you seen the womens leathers Icon and Joe Rocket are putting out, they make them to hold there...........you know :wink:

Thor, man id do one at a time really. I think once you do the front you may not want to touch the back. My oppinion but honestly my bike kinda lost its luster once at about 135 or so but now I saw the most on the speedo the other day its seen with me on it, and done it in 5th. My top end is better than it was. :wink:

Yeah, my plan is to do the front first, do a few sessions, then do the rear just to see if it is too much or just right. If the rear makes it too low, I'll just sell it and keep the front. I'm trying to get the gearing right for the track. My friend went -1 in the front and +1 in the rear of his RC51 and loves it.

Glad to hear the women is doing well. Best of luck to riding this year.

heres a post that Is a few pages back, I regeared the 54 and the speedo was off a bit riding with a guy with a speedo healer.

I done the -1 up front +1 in the rear, holy shit what a difference.

http://1000rr.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2479

Truck no problem, like I said on another post the wife loves to work with pics on photoshop. She's doing real well on her bike. Were going to get her permit sometime real soon and hopefully by the time I get back from Florida I'll get her out on the road. I just want to make sure she is totally comfortable with the bike. The first time she goes out with me I'll be nervous.

CTD thanks man she's psyched up that's for sure! She had me wash her bike the other day. Doesn't like all the bug marks on it. Oh well gives me an excuse to wash mine then.

By-tor the best thing about only dropping a tooth in the front is you don't have to get a bigger chain. I think you'll definetely be impressed with one tooth down in the front on your 1000. I would definetely do it.

I forgot all about that thread Max!!!!!!!!! Thanks for diggin it up 8)

I'm putting in the order as I speak for the front. I think I might buy another cush drive off eBay to keep as my quick change set up for the track and use it to play with different gear combinations :P

good idea with the cush drive. Is the cush drive the same on the 1000?

do they just fall out when you pull the sprocket carrier? Or are the stuck on there?

Yeah, they just fall out. Easy as pie :lol:

There is one for sale on ebay with factory sprocket for $19.00 8)

damn thats cheap.

I'm doing -1 in front and wanted to know if anyone have written step by step install instructions. If so please share with me. I can provide email address if necessary.

Thanks

loosen chain, remove bolt holding sprocket on, switch sprockets, torque bolt, tighten chain.

I would think that in 6th you'll be over 180mph. The speedometer is probably off by a few, but not much. The 1000rr isn't that much faster. The 954 is a bad machine!!!!

I've heard that the stock speedo (on most bikes) is off anywhere from 10-12%. So indicated 180 is actually around 162. Still moving...

yea, and after you regear it, its off worse than that. unless you gear higher, and not to many people do that cause you loss all your low end.

yea, and after you regear it, its off worse than that. unless you gear higher, and not to many people do that cause you loss all your low end.

From what I experienced last weekend, I think you'd need a loooong stretch t o redline in 6th - if it's even possible with stock gearing. I had almost a mile and only got 6th to around 10Krpm.

wasn't there a discussion awhile back about the Honda computer pulls timing or something to slow ya' down in 6th?

similar to the TR_ that the zooks have

Thanks Navy, I hope it's as simple as it sounds.

it is...just make sure you check the sprocket cover bolts a few times over the next few rides...they like to wiggle out.

Okay, now Im totally confused :? I've been researching this sprocket change and reading forum posts for a looonnnng time trying to make a decision and just when I decide to do -1 in front, I read 1wheelmax post in which he said.... "All and all I'm happy with it but if I knew how much difference it would have made I would have probably not messed with the front and just added a couple to the rear."
Now I don't know whether to drop a tooth in the front or go up 2 in the rear. I only ride on the street, I'm looking to make the 954 pull harder, I want to keep stock chain, and I want less engine strain. With that said should I drop 1 in front or keep stock 16 tooth front sprocket and just go up 2 (45) or 3 (46) in the rear?

I would (and I will) go -1 in the front because it will give the results you are looking for and it will have the smallest effect on the wheelbase of the bike. If you go +2 or +3 in the rear, you will have to adjust the rear wheel pretty far forward if you plan on using the stock chain.

Going -1 in the front means that you will only have to move the rear wheel back a tiny bit. The 954 could only benefit from the slight increase in wheelbase.

That's just my opinion. Hope it helps.

Good information, Thanks By-Tor.... By the way.... What brand of sprocket should I purchase....RENTHAL? AFRAM? VORTEX? other?

Thanks

Drop the front you wont be sorry. That will be enouph youll see :wink:

Now do it and quit stressing over it. :lol:

Best advice yet, Thanks Truck.....gave parts411 a call today, should be here soon. Can't wait

Looks like we're all droppin teeth around here............... Better call a dentist :lol:



I know, I know................ Kick me in the nuts for that one :roll:

*kicks By-Tor in the nuts*

What'ch guys using to correct your speedos? i know mines whack, i'm down in the front and up in the rear...

I know this is a popular item for correcting the spedometer.......

http://www.speedohealer.com/eng/intro.htm