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Nemisis
08-23-2005, 08:40 PM
I did a little corner work and in exchange I got (6) 20 minute sessions and (1) 40 minute session. Only problem if you had to go to the bathroom you had to go during your session. Didn't even bother taking off helmet to pee. Did Pocono East and improved. Almost got the knee down 1 time (the puck touched). Almost low sided by going on the grass at 60 mph. Who said the 1000RR is not good off road? :oops: Kept same settings as last time. Going into the bus stop rear end was literally bouncing up and down (corner worker saw it, I felt it) one time when I was hard on the brakes. I hate the rear shock. :x

gntbldr
08-23-2005, 08:51 PM
very good to hear. You learn anything different this time around?

resuscit8u
08-23-2005, 09:24 PM
sounds like a good time!

Nemisis
08-24-2005, 08:24 AM
very good to hear. You learn anything different this time around?

Well I learned the importance of keeping your eyes were you are going not were you are at. When I went off I wasn't looking for my next marker and got lost.

I kept the pegs weighted but when I lifted my rear off the seat to set up for the bus stop (all weight on pegs) the bike wanted to buck me off (serious break chatter I think)

Unless I was way to hot I would get all my breaking before the turn as opposed to trailbreaking. I was able to carry more speed in the turn than I thought and was able to crack the throttle sooner. (Keith Codes book) All I did was concentrate on my turns. Slow on the straights as I know can go fast in a straight line. I didn't do to much breaking hard breaking, if anything. I was doing the course in second and being very light on the breaks. I was making sure I would lift my rear to side.

I was tired at the end of the day. I could have gone out for a 7th 20 minute session but I was tired. Today my legs are sore and back are tight.

Also I have become babied looking for breaking markers. The group had no break markers and only had turn markers late in the day. If I hadn't done Pocono East before I would have been completly lost.

resuscit8u
08-24-2005, 09:13 AM
very good to hear. You learn anything different this time around?

Well I learned the importance of keeping your eyes were you are going not were you are at. When I went off I wasn't looking for my next marker and got lost.

I kept the pegs weighted but when I lifted my rear off the seat to set up for the bus stop (all weight on pegs) the bike wanted to buck me off (serious break chatter I think)

Unless I was way to hot I would get all my breaking before the turn as opposed to trailbreaking. I was able to carry more speed in the turn than I thought and was able to crack the throttle sooner. (Keith Codes book) All I did was concentrate on my turns. Slow on the straights as I know can go fast in a straight line. I didn't do to much breaking hard breaking, if anything. I was doing the course in second and being very light on the breaks. I was making sure I would lift my rear to side.

I was tired at the end of the day. I could have gone out for a 7th 20 minute session but I was tired. Today my legs are sore and back are tight.

Also I have become babied looking for breaking markers. The group had no break markers and only had turn markers late in the day. If I hadn't done Pocono East before I would have been completly lost.

Take sodium and potassium supplements for about a week before and the day of your trackday as well as keeping hydrated and the pain does not happen. I use Thermotabs myself. Take as directed on the bottle.

By-Tor
08-24-2005, 09:28 AM
My job is very physical so in turn I have never been sore after a trackday.

Sounds like you're making some great progress bro. Glad to hear it. You've got the right attitude.

Was a photographer there this time? If so, post some pics :D

Nemisis
08-24-2005, 01:52 PM
Photographer was there. I will investigate.

gntbldr
08-24-2005, 03:42 PM
Well I learned the importance of keeping your eyes were you are going not were you are at.

I kept the pegs weighted but when I lifted my rear off the seat to set up for the bus stop (all weight on pegs) the bike wanted to buck me off (serious break chatter I think)

keeping your Mind on where you are at and where you are going is far more important than keeping your eyes there. There are times that something comes up whether it be another rider or maybe even a debris on the track that will get you caught up in object fixation and if you are consious of where you are going by memory you don't need to rely on your eyes as much as you do your memory and paying attention.
The markers are great training wheels but most of my timing comes from feeling my way around the track (or roads).
When I ride on the roads or the track my visual focus is on everything everywhere all the time while my intentions are focused on where I am going and how I am getting there.
Always looking through the turn or at the end of a straight. Staring at the infinite point of the pavement way ahead of me.
If I ever look down or at something or someone it's just a glance that I will give it. Never a stare. and even though I may glance at something my main program (mind set) is still on where I can go and how I am getting there.

I've had brake chatter before in the rear and that means you are using too much of the rear brake.
If you are getting that humping like chatter when you are powering through a turn then that's normally not enough rebound and the rear preload may need to be increased too.

overall it sounds like you are catching on to being a better rider fairly quick.
Keep up the good work, man.



:wink:

Nemisis
08-24-2005, 08:21 PM
I've had brake chatter before in the rear and that means you are using too much of the rear brake.
If you are getting that humping like chatter when you are powering through a turn then that's normally not enough rebound and the rear preload may need to be increased too.

overall it sounds like you are catching on to being a better rider fairly quick.
Keep up the good work, man.



:wink:[/quote]

Please give me more info on the rear shock as I have been trying to figure it out. I wasn't to hard on the front brake, no rear brake, and rpms were at 5000. My rear was off the seat but the bike was still upright.

Also thanks for the compliment but it all goes to all the help I have recieved. Mike Himmelsbach (runs Champion Sportbike) has given me a lot of free undeserved help. More than I asked for. A couple guys on this board as By-Tor and Turbo have also been great. As of know I have 1600 miles under my belt. 400 though have been on the track.

1WHEELMAX
08-24-2005, 09:00 PM
sounds like a great time I can't wait till my next chance to get on the track.

gntbldr
08-25-2005, 10:40 AM
Please give me more info on the rear shock as I have been trying to figure it out. I wasn't to hard on the front brake, no rear brake, and rpms were at 5000. My rear was off the seat but the bike was still upright.



Also thanks for the compliment .


engine braking will do the same as using too much rear if you let out the clutch too quick.

same thing on the settings as I mentioned before but if the hopping came from too much rear brake or letting out the clutch too fast then you just need to work on using more front brake and more controlled engine braking.

When I was at Putnam with my ol 88 katana 600 I lost front brakes all together (air bubble in the line) and all I had was rear brakes and engine braking.
one time the rear was hopping soo bad because I came in wayyy too hot that I had to ride off the track like you did with your sight issue and it took me a good 100' or so to get the bike slowed down enough to turn around without lowsiding.

rear suspension adjustments should not be focused on as the main fix to tire hop from braking (engine or rear brake) although they do help if tweaked just right.

The main time you should adjust your suspension due to hopping is when the hopping or pulsating warble occurs under massive lean angle and under large amounts of power.
That is the time to increase rebound and possibly preload too.

At least these are my observations from my experiences.



and You're welcome for the compliment. credit where it is due. :)

Nemisis
08-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Also realized when I hit the brake on the turn, which stood the bike up, is what made me go off. Never do that mistake again (I hope).