time to break out the welder and make an intake plenum....

gonna put one of THESE:

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on my V65 Magna. oh baby i get a hard-on just looking at it. going to be a 100% custom job. hopefully i can pull it off. might have to convert to EFI though. secksi!

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :firedevi: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
that's going to be royaly wicked

if it works, i'll send you pics and measurements, gnt. the measurements will be for a V65 though...

btw, that swingarm will be sent out this week when i finally get home :-D

sweet. ty.

I can't wait till springtime and I start to wrench on that v45 I have.

a member here is looking into a load of parts or possibly two whole bikes for parts for me.
I'd drive to wherever to take them off their hands. heck yeah.
now there's two of us 'V' guys here excited about them style Hondas
:HEHEHE:

is that some kind of hi output alternator? wee

You just wait til I find myself an 87 Magna gnt- then I will build the fuck out of it.

that'll be killer.
wonder if you'll put one of them supercharger err.. alternators on it so you can race Wheelie in them 1/8ths? lol...

I am gonna go with Naaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwssss!

ooooo. {wipe clean messy drawers here}
that'll be wicked too. :twisted:

I like a bunch of stuff sailor's frined did to his V. what was all that there mods again Sailor?

you mean this guy?? :twisted: :twisted:

http://home.houston.rr.com/v65mag/10/testdr.jpg

that's a MagnaCharger kit. they stopped making them back in the mid-80's. very very few of them around anymore, and the blower was a shitty design. inefficient as hell. the blower isn't mounted on his bike anymore though...he's building up an engine with rods and forged pistons to take the beating, then he'll mount the blower again with a custom EFI system w/ ignition control (megasquirt 2).

i was going to build up a high compression engine...but considering the costs, a blower is just so much cooler. and there's much less machine shop work to be done. none, actually.

far out. yeah that's the one. cool info to boot too. :D
ohh the days ahead when I get to revamp a motor.. mmm mmm mm.
I'm still trying to convince my friend to build up a turbo kit for my klr. lol. :)

man that's a sweet looking setup on that bike.

the mods i listed in the other thread were just common mods that we tend to do. i've done pretty much all of them to my bikes, except the short gearing. i have those 3.40 gears sitting in my garage, just have to swap them into my final drive pumpkin. to give you an idea of how fast these bikes are off the line, virtually stock (geared, strapped), it's not uncommon to see 1.7s 60' times...with a pro rider, even better. not too shabby for an old bike. the problem is keeping the front wheel down. it's very light up front for a cruiser.

cool.
I know sortof what you are talking about, my old kawi ltd454 had a lot of go for the little guy but it sure was hard to keep the front from lofting. fun at times freakin people out doing a wheelie on a cruiser though,eh?..

cool.
I know sortof what you are talking about, my old kawi ltd454 had a lot of go for the little guy but it sure was hard to keep the front from lofting. fun at times freakin people out doing a wheelie on a cruiser though,eh?..

haha you have no idea! i especially love rolling with the harley guys, letting them think they're all bad ass because they're on harleys and i'm on a metric cruiser, then clutching one up in 2nd. at the next light...

"what the fuck is that thing???" :-D

def post up the in progress pics ryan :twisted:

ok, here's problem #1. i'm not sure how to approach this. maybe we have some machinists in the ranks?

a pulley needs to drive a belt powering the blower. this pulley needs to be mounted on a shaft (extension of the crankshaft). the alternator is on the left, and is mounted directly to the crank. it's held in place by one large bolt. my idea is to get an extra long bolt to replace this, and use this to bolt the new shaft and pulley to the end of the crank. i'll have a machine shop turn me a nice shaft. piece of cake. now here's the problem:

the shaft needs to pass through the alternator cover. i figure i'll need to install some kind of oil seal in the cover to keep oil from getting out and dirt from getting in. the question is, how do i accurately install such a seal? i was thinking that i machine a hole, dead center in the cover about the size of the shaft, install it, slide the seal on, mark its position, then machine the proper sized hole for the seal? do you think this is accurate enough of a method?

any ideas?

from what i hear Ryan is gonna install one of those on my bike.....thats awfully cool of you brutha!

ok guys, quick update:

finally scored a blower: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BONNEVILLE-SSEI-3-8-3800-SC-SUPERCHARGER_W0QQitemZ4594537149QQcatego ryZ42611QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

sorted out my engine build details. going with forged pistons to drop the CR from 10.5:1 to 9.0:1. stock head gaskets. still trying to source some very durable rods. stage 2 cams, general cleanup of intake/exhaust ports, valve seats cut, undercut transmission, top end oil mod kit.

Megasquirt Electronic Fuel Injection. i'm no electrical engineer, so this is going to be hard for me to do. If anyone knows anything about megasquirt, shoot me a PM.

yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhh! pumped!

:kickass1:
:w00ta::w00ta:


what's with the top-end oil kit? what's all with that?

ahhhh yes. early Honda V4's suffered from cam oiling problems. not all, but some. it was a combination of soft steel used for the cams and poor oil supply reaching them. some bikes ate cams...others didn't at all. honda offered a warranty on these cams up until 1990. the oil mod kit supplies the cams with a higher volume of filtered oil (rather than unfiltered like in the stock oil system).

my V45 and V65 both have 17k on the clock with no cam problems. no oil mods installed.

the first step is to check to make sure your cams are good. light scoring on the lobes is acceptable. pitting is not. once the cams are good, my opinion is to leave the bike as is. ride it, use a good quality oil, and change it regularly. adjust your valves every 10k miles. that's what i do with my bikes and my cams are mint. the way i see it, i could score a set of cams on ebay for about $40, so why invest in a $240 oil kit?

i think a lot of it is a big scare. the worst that can happen to the stock cams is accelerated wear. whoopie. the bike won't shit itself, it'll just slowly lose power over time as the cam lobes lose their shape. and as i said earlier, they can be had CHEAP on ebay.

the reason i'm installing an oil mod on the supercharged engine is because of the cost of the stage 2 cam grind. i don't want to risk hosing a $400-500 cam grind, ya know? i guess it's peace of mind.

:eek: lol,, so, here I sit with the klr that has it's cam chain tensioner fragility and that v45 I have is going to have a little looksee under it's hood for shits and giggles, lol!

niiiiiiiiiiiiiice e-bayed the blower.....good price as well. do i get to ride it??? lol

niiiiiiiiiiiiiice e-bayed the blower.....good price as well. do i get to ride it??? lol

if i pull it off, of course!

waiting on the aluminum plate for the intake plenum. i made a mock-up of the plenum out of styrofoam the other night. got it perfect, took measurements, entered them into AutoCAD and made templates. while i had the foam plenum in there, i was able to test fit the blower. it was too big at first. took an angle grinder to it. lopped off some of the extra mounting brackets and shit. fits nice now. looked fucking NASTY sitting in there. fills up the whole vee. big blower snout and pulley sticking out the left side. i got a hard-on. once this aluminum comes in i'm going to transfer the templates, cut, tack it together with my MIG and bring it to a friend to get it sewn up with his TIG. then polish it up and bolt the blower to it and install. :ohshit:

Is your MIG set up to weld aluminum?

Is your MIG set up to weld aluminum?

not yet. i gotta get my tank filled with argon, and pick up aluminum wire and tips. anything else i'm forgetting?

Cool, sounds like you have it covered. Just be sure the supply guy gives you all the right stuff.

Did you ever settle on a welding helmet?

Cool, sounds like you have it covered. Just be sure the supply guy gives you all the right stuff.

Did you ever settle on a welding helmet?

yeah i got a $20 cheap plastic one. it works surprisingly well. doesn't give me a headache. comfy. big lense too, just like you recommended. thanks again!

it's good to know people that know things, probably why I never have really needed to go to any other boards to get answers to things.

not yet. i gotta get my tank filled with argon, and pick up aluminum wire and tips. anything else i'm forgetting?

what are u using to run the aluminum? you can use a regular mig gun, but you may have wire feed problems if it's too long and you don't have a teflon liner.

just a thought

what are u using to run the aluminum? you can use a regular mig gun, but you may have wire feed problems if it's too long and you don't have a teflon liner.

just a thought

hmmm...i don't know. all i need is enough to do a few little tacks to keep it together, then i'll have my friend TIG it. we'll see how it goes, i might just have to TIG the whole thing.

it can be done with a regular gun and liner, it's just that i have seen alot of folks run into some snags. make sure the gun/lead is as straight as possible and you have a good tip in there. oh....and practice on some scrap aluminum first.....we don't want to see another thread like GNT's :rofl3:

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shit, making one for the 1krr would be even easier than this. hmmmmm....

my machinist (uh oh, i'm starting to sound like turbo...) said that he might be able to find me a block of billet aluminum for free. if not, the drive unit will be an aluminum weldment (as drawn). mmmm billet = way cool. either way, the unit should be done in the next few weeks and installed on the bike for testing. if the unit operates well with acceptable wear, the intake plenum will be welded up and the blower installed.

i feel like a kid in a candy shop.

how much would a block of billet aluminum cost?

hows the project coming ryan?

how much would a block of billet aluminum cost?

if i were to buy it myself, an 8" diameter rod of 5" in length would run $305.

project is going well. i ground any unnecessary features off the blower to reduce weight and make installation easier. the mechanical design phase is 90% done. now it's getting built as the cash comes in. i should have it running on the stock engine at 4psi boost by the end of the summer, and i should have the low compression motor done by the summer following, allowing me to crank the boost up to around 14psi.

14psi, lol, dayyyyumm, better hang tight, lol

14psi, lol, dayyyyumm, better hang tight, lol

yeah, god willing it'll be a literbike killer in brute acceleration...if i can keep the front wheel down.

then you'd have to get a wheelie bar is all. hahah


and jimmy, :blah: :blah: :blah: :tongue:

one of my friends just picked up the sickest bike i have ever seen. he paid $17,000 for it, which is a bargain...

Yamaha V-Max
1260cc
Aries 8.0:1 pistons
Carillo Rods
Roots Supercharger running 14psi
Chain Drive conversion
Extended swingarm with FatMax rear wheel (280 on the rear)
Dyna 3000 Ignition
Frame raked 36*
Tokico 4-pot calipers up front
Anti-torque frame braces
Custom 4-1 exhaust
Progressive suspension

fucking sick shit. no fuel injection though, either a 2 or 4bbl carb.

DAYUM!

is he going to let you ride it?

DAYUM!

is he going to let you ride it?

yup, the next time i go home. once i take a spin on it i know i'll be OBSESSED with my blower project....

this is going to be fucking sweet.

hells yeah. :firedevil:

the drive unit came yesterday! it took the machinist a few weeks to make. my design was spot on. he did an outstanding job and it fits PERFECTLY on the bike. next comes the sheet metal intake manifold.

machined from a billet aluminum. a stainless steel shaft supported by dual ABEC-3 double sealed ball bearings. outer oil/dust seal. the pegs and drive plate were professionally TIG welded to each other and the shaft. pulley is an aluminum 25mm AT10 20T pulley.

these pictures were taken this morning. i have since polished the unit to a mirror finish.

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That's gonna be sick!

That is awesome...any plans to beef up the drive train?

That is awesome...any plans to beef up the drive train?

the V65 Magna is a shaftie. that old rumor that shafties can't wheelie...haha let's just say that i can clutch some nice ones in 2nd gear. the shaft and final drive unit is virtually bulletproof. the stock transmissions have a tendency to jump out of 2nd gear after being abused a little bit. my current engine has an undercut gearbox done by orient express to eliminate that problem. the blown motor will have one too.

the weak points in the stock engine are the pistons and rods. the supercharged motor will be fitted with 9.0:1 JE Pistons and Carrillo rods.

it will also be fuel injected. multi-point fuel injection.

next step is piecing together the aluminum intake manifold. it should be fairly straightforward. i'm going to assemble it on the engine and tack it together as i go. it has to mate up to the intake ports on the cyl heads and be low enough for the blower to fit in the frame. other than that it doesn't have to be too accurate. injector bungs will be welded to each individual runner, and i will install a blow-off valve and three nipples for MAP, Boost/Vac gauge, and rising rate FPR.

the only problem i forsee is that the power will be put to the ground through the stock 150 tire. i can't really go any bigger due to swingarm clearance and the stock wheel is 3.5" wide so going to a 160 would probably reduce my contact patch. stock swingarm length too...wide open throttle is going to be VERY interesting.

I had a V45 Sabre in 1988.... The shaft drive failed. I think it was called the "pinion joint" when I pulled it apart it was in a few pieces.. As I recall some parts guy said that was it was commom problem. Not so?

Regardless I sure do like what you're doing. I wonder if they make a wider swing arm for your bike? You better get some wheelie bars too....air shifter...?? Then go find some Vet's and Viper's to stomp

wow, it's been a while! update time...

i constructed the intake manifold and support plate out of aluminum plate, and i made my own custom blow-off valve. i had a machinist turn a custom tensioner pulley out of aluminum, and it is supported by dual ball bearings. the blower fits perfectly on the manifold and is driven by a 25mm AT10 belt, with aluminum toothed pulleys. bolted to the end of the blower is a throttle body from a 1996 Pontiac Bonneville.

now I'm working on the fuel injection...

i'm thinking about turbocharging the 1000RR next...

totally friggen cool Ryan
I was just wondering how this was all coming along.
and damn you for not having any pics! lol


I just traded my v45 away. went to a god home and was a decent trade but I'll have to tell my buddy about yours
any way you can put up that video of your buddy doing that wheelie at night and anything else you might have?