: Swingarm removal
vt954 01-30-2006, 08:59 PM I'm trying to remove the swingarm on my 954. Any suggestions on how to safely do this? I am having trouble supporting the bike without the swingarm on it. I have a front and rear stand. The fron is an under fork mount, and the rear is a spool mount. I have strapped the triples to the front stand and put a block under the motor, but the balance isn't very good.
How has anyone else done this?
UKDave?
By-Tor?
Turbo? -- no I don't want your motor guys number...:rofl:
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:01 PM I would just get a floor jack and put it under the exhaust, take off your plastics first thou.
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:08 PM I have the plastic off and removed the exhast after the valve. The side to side balance is tough. The shape of the oil pan is pretty irregular, so it makes jacking it wierd.
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:10 PM you got a front stand?
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:11 PM yup. it's on it. the kind that hooks into the bottom of the forks
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:12 PM hmmm, you working in a garage ?
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:13 PM yup, I have a decent set up. heat and everything!
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:14 PM I'm looking for clues in the service manual now
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:16 PM do you have anything to strap up and hook up to the rafters and your triple tree just for safetys sake?
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:17 PM no clues...
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:17 PM hey vt, you got a paper back manual?
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:18 PM No rafters in the garage. It's all sheetrocked. I may have to put some hooks into the studs to do that. I read that at least one of the rearsets has to come off, so I can't hook into those. I'll have to sleep on it I guess.
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:18 PM not paper -- .pdf
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:20 PM you want a paper one?
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:21 PM It might help. I have been just printing off small sections when I need them.
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:24 PM I got your address right??
let me look I'll be right back.
gntbldr 01-30-2006, 09:25 PM too bad you don't have an engine hoist around.....
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:28 PM Max -- PM'd
GNT -- I can get one real easy. Whatcha got in mind?
gntbldr 01-30-2006, 09:30 PM strap it to the subframe closest to the actual frame. it's that easy.
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:32 PM VT did you get my pm?
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:33 PM Yup - did you get mine?
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:34 PM GNT your pretty smart sometimes...
gntbldr 01-30-2006, 09:37 PM GNT your pretty smart sometimes...
and I'm pounding the fuck out of 90 proof rum right now! hahahah
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:38 PM Maybe I should'nt try your way then... lol
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:39 PM Yup - did you get mine?
yep just got it, repling now.
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:39 PM It looks like a good idea to me says the drunk guy... :)
gntbldr 01-30-2006, 09:40 PM hahah!
seen it done before or I wouldnta mentioned it. :tongue: :roll:
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:45 PM Sounds like a winner to me. I'll make the arraingments. After reading the manual, it looks like the bearings are going to be a real pain. Might have to bring it to the dealer to get them pressed out before the powdercoat. Bummer. We'll see if one of my techs at work can do it first. I dont know how important the special tools are...
gntbldr 01-30-2006, 09:46 PM don't worry about pressing them out. I've got that covered.
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:49 PM Ok, cool.
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:50 PM Your making this too easy!
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:54 PM gnt as soon as I get my bike you'll be getting the pass pegs and next winter look out.haha
vt954 01-30-2006, 09:57 PM Right on Max!
GNTs lucky I'm as lazy as I am -- he'd have a KTM frame and swingarm coming his way too! Probably a lawn tractor frame, and my jackstands, bike stands, mag light, and whatever else I could find!
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 09:59 PM haha yea thats what I'm thinking for next winter, I wonder how big of a box does ups take.haha
gntbldr 01-30-2006, 10:01 PM Right on Max!
GNTs lucky I'm as lazy as I am -- he'd have a KTM frame and swingarm coming his way too! Probably a lawn tractor frame, and my jackstands, bike stands, mag light, and whatever else I could find!
bring it on!!!
the buddy that's doing this for me out of the favors he owes me has just increased his favor inbox to an obsurd amount.
he want's me to build him another computer AND tear down his goldwing and rebuild it! hahahahah
I'm taking my swingarm off the 600 by the end of the week.
1WHEELMAX 01-30-2006, 10:03 PM yea you will get one swingarm next year for sure.
vt954 01-30-2006, 10:05 PM I'm taking my swingarm off the 600 by the end of the week.
It's a good thing we don't ride together - it would look pretty gay both with black bikes with blacked out frame and swingarms... :gay:
Maybe you should do yours in red just in case :rofl3:
vt954 01-30-2006, 10:06 PM That's gonna become the .com trademark!
vt954 01-30-2006, 10:08 PM :twoguns: We'll be like a gang or the mafia. :chainsaw:
gntbldr 01-30-2006, 10:11 PM the .com mafia!!!!!!
:rofl: !!!
ukdave28 01-30-2006, 10:24 PM UKDave?
By-Tor?
Turbo? -- no I don't want your motor guys number...:rofl:
Ok here is how I did it. If you look at were the side firings end there is a spot on the inside of the frame were the back of the trans is held be the frame..... I just built 2 stands out of some scrap 2x6 placed them either side of the bike and used a fiberglass garden tool handle from home depot...
The other way to do this is to use foot peg stands.
I will try to look for some pictures
resuscit8u 01-31-2006, 12:07 AM oh deer lowered!
Flightmedic954 01-31-2006, 01:18 AM $13 stands
http://gntbldr.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/normal_IMG_0254%5B1%5D.jpghttp://gntbldr.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/normal_IMG_0256%5B2%5D.jpg
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gntbldr 01-31-2006, 01:23 AM Awesome medic.
have a nice flight man.
vt954 01-31-2006, 07:21 AM Thanks guys. If I use the pegs, it doesn't look like I can still remove the swingarm bracket. I'll look into the mount like UK. I'll check it out tonight.
Flightmedic954 01-31-2006, 08:49 AM ok lets play find the swingarm in the pics above
ukdave28 01-31-2006, 10:07 AM Medic.... are you not doing the swing arm mount ?
vt954 01-31-2006, 10:58 AM lower right pic. already black . nice. that will look hot.
1WHEELMAX 01-31-2006, 03:22 PM I don't see the swing arm in any of those pics.
vonzipperjr 01-31-2006, 07:25 PM hey that shits not funny mine is black on blsck now also
vt954 01-31-2006, 07:50 PM hey that shits not funny mine is black on blsck now also
Guess that means your part of the crew...
Flightmedic954 02-01-2006, 02:27 PM Max is the winner
I was stupid tired when I was screwing w/ that
I don't know what to do about the swing arm mount
I wanted it powder coated to, but my head was too screwed up to figure it out right then
I was thinking about hitting the silver parts of the motor w/ some black high-temp paint
& I could hit those @ the same time
that doesn't sound like the best idea, I don't know
1WHEELMAX 02-01-2006, 04:41 PM what did I win??
your 954?
haha
vt954 02-01-2006, 06:56 PM Fucking trick questions...
Medic did you already put it back on? Why not remove the bracket now and send it out? Send it to GNT and have it done when mine is.
Flightmedic954 02-01-2006, 11:33 PM I am about 1k miles from the damn thing
vt954 02-05-2006, 10:43 AM Ok, so it's almost out. The only thing holding me up is the swingarm pivot bolt. I don't have a 24mm allen key. If I need to I will buy one from the Snap On dealer, but was hoping to get it done today... Any ideas? Did you guys just buy an allen key or did you figure some other way to get it out?
vt954 02-05-2006, 12:03 PM Nevermind. I got it. Went to the hardware store and got a 16mm bolt (24mm head) and double nutted it. Came right out.:071:
vt954 02-05-2006, 12:04 PM GNT - can you break the chain for me?
1WHEELMAX 02-05-2006, 12:58 PM cool, it took you long enough. haha
vt954 02-05-2006, 01:01 PM No shit eh. I want to get it done so I can see it all black.
Flightmedic954 02-05-2006, 02:57 PM jez I thought it took me forever
& that was like 2 hrs
I just took an angle grinder to the chain.
Courtjester 02-05-2006, 03:28 PM I'm trying to remove the swingarm on my 954. Any suggestions on how to safely do this? I am having trouble supporting the bike without the swingarm on it. I have a front and rear stand. The fron is an under fork mount, and the rear is a spool mount. I have strapped the triples to the front stand and put a block under the motor, but the balance isn't very good.
i have a buddy that HAD and 02 R1. he got his off by high siding at about 110. only took a few seconds.
vt954 02-05-2006, 04:30 PM jez I thought it took me forever
yeah ,yeah Working time has probably only been a little over an hour or so. I hate to grind the chain because it is in great shape. I suppose you can just add a master link after. I'd rather not though...
GNT it's coming your way this week!
1WHEELMAX 02-05-2006, 04:32 PM grind it on the master link, you don't want 2 of em on it.
vt954 02-05-2006, 09:14 PM I'll have to look at it closer -- maybe even look at the service manual... I didn't see a master link.
1WHEELMAX 02-05-2006, 09:22 PM yea its hard to find sometimes you have to look real close, the link will look just a little different on the outside were the metal pins come threw the chain.
they will have little holes in them on the master link.
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