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: Helmets!!


RippinCBR
05-18-2004, 01:44 PM
Where could I get good deals on helmets, fucking helmets are getting to expensive...I have an Arai Quantum series helmet just wondering what is everyone using or what would be comparable helmet to the Arai? :P

Truck
05-18-2004, 08:30 PM
E-bay brother. Thast the only place ive found, anyone else :idea:

Wheelie
05-18-2004, 08:38 PM
Careful on ebay, you might get a blem or defective helmet. weeee

Wheelie
05-18-2004, 08:39 PM
I sell AGV. Come from Parts Unlimited. weee

gntbldr
05-18-2004, 08:50 PM
arai signet at the dealer... $500.00 at the ama race at the arai tent... $375.00 same exact helmet
I got the dealer to take the difference off or take the helmet back.

Anonymous
05-18-2004, 09:45 PM
nothing compares to an Arai....

RippinCBR
05-19-2004, 06:50 AM
Thanks guys. Wheelie you sell AGV if so how much are you selling the Rossi GP helmet for?

Anonymous
05-19-2004, 07:12 AM
a crappy plastic shell and styrofoam is neither technologically advanced nor could it be defective, how? if its on fire, maybe

if it comes in peices, yeah

if it is missing 1 of the 2 possible parts - plastic or styrofoam, indeed

BUT ITS JUST A PLASTIC SHELLED COOLER!!! helmets are the biggest fuckin rip offs ever

id pay 500$ for one that was actually made of something decent

anyhow, you live in nj, alot of shitty low income areas, the best way to buy helmets, hands down, is call your local thrift stores

ive gotten a ton of helmets from thrift stores, honestly just look in the paper, call all iof them youll find some and theyll be 5-20$

rock

GeNeRaL
05-19-2004, 11:29 AM
Shark Helmets are wonderful. A friend got the barros replica (that i wanted :x ) and it's very nice. thickest shield i've ever seen, comes with 2 different breathgard type inserts, nearly impossible to fog up even without the breathe gaurds in. The vent system is supposedly top of the class, race proven lids, etc.

Arai is also high quality, among the best in the world, imo.

Vemar is another nice lid from europe like the sharks.

Suomy are nice, Shoei are nice.

Get whatever fits your dome. improper fitting can cause more damage than you'd imagine. I'd rather have a $100 lid that fits right than a $500 lid that doesnt. It's also been determined that somewhere around 80% of people who buy helmets buy the wrong size. Don't order anything you havent tried on first hand.

Wheelie
05-19-2004, 05:25 PM
Rossi XR-2 Moto-GP. $420 to your door. I hope you wear a xl, large are on back order. weeeeeee

Truck
05-19-2004, 07:41 PM
Bought my shoei RF-900 Pecotie for $ 260.00 off ebay brand new in the box. :wink:

CBR-RR-XX-CESS
05-19-2004, 07:54 PM
a crappy plastic shell and styrofoam is neither technologically advanced nor could it be defective, how? if its on fire, maybe

if it comes in peices, yeah

if it is missing 1 of the 2 possible parts - plastic or styrofoam, indeed

BUT ITS JUST A PLASTIC SHELLED COOLER!!! helmets are the biggest fuckin rip offs ever

id pay 500$ for one that was actually made of something decent

anyhow, you live in nj, alot of shitty low income areas, the best way to buy helmets, hands down, is call your local thrift stores

ive gotten a ton of helmets from thrift stores, honestly just look in the paper, call all iof them youll find some and theyll be 5-20$

rock

Can't dispute helments are over priced but you are doing the unknowing a disservice with your comments,a good helmet is your first and best defense against death and lasting injury. I have to wonder if you have crashed a few times with those 10 dollar helmets :) here is some info about how helmets breakdown over time,its no bullshit.

What You Should Know About Motorcycle Helmets
Polycarbonate. Three-quarter. Full face. Fiberglass. Helmet styles and materials vary greatly. Yet a motorcycle helmet is probably the first piece of personal protective equipment most motorcyclists reach for when they ride. It's also the most important piece of protective gear a rider can use.

Today many states don't require mandatory helmet use for all riders in their jurisdiction, yet helmet use among motorcyclists is much higher than safety belt use among car drivers. Between 40 and 60 percent of riders voluntarily wear helmets when they ride compared with only 15 percent of car drivers who use their seat belts. And the seat belt is already in the car!

A rider's skill is an important factor in preventing motorcycle accidents. Rider education programs and improved license standards and testing procedures assist in developing safer motorcyclists. But in the event of an accident, a rider's protective clothing can help minimize injuries. Protective clothing doesn't end with a help, either. Every rider should wear a face shield or goggles, gloves, over- the-ankle boots and durable, long sleeved jacket and long pants.

Since head injuries account for the majority of motorcycle fatalities, head protection is of vital importance. While even the best helmet can't guarantee complete immunity from injury, without a helmet you are up to five times more likely to sustain a critical head injury in an accident, than a helmeted rider.
Standards and Testing
Helmets actually protect your head in two ways. The outer shell resists penetration and abrasion and absorbs the large initial shock in an accident. The inner liner absorbs the rest of the shock by slowly collapsing under impact. Both the shell and the liner essentially self-destruct by spreading the forces of impact throughout the helmet material. That's why, in most cases, if a helmet has been damaged in an accident, it may be of little protective value in another mishap.

When you shop, look for stickers on the inside or outside of the helmet confirming compliance with the standards from one or several of these agencies: U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), the Snell Memorial Foundation, or the American Nation Standards Institute (ANSI). [ed. note. ANSI compliance is less common these days]

Each organization has established rigid procedures to evaluate:

* Impact - the shock absorbing capacity of the helmet
* Penetration - the helmet's ability to withstand a blow from a sharp object.
* Retention - the chin strap's ability to stay fastened without breaking or stretching.
* Peripheral Vision - the helmet must provide a minimum side vision of 120 degrees to each side (Most people's peripheral vision is between 110 and 115 degrees).

Department of Transportation (DOT)
The DOT sticker appears on the outside, back bottom edge of the helmet. Since 1980 all adult-sized helmets must meet the DOT standard. Helmet dealers and distributors must ensure that all the helmets they sell bear the DOT sticker.
Snell Memorial Foundation
The Snell sticker is usually found on the inside lower back of the helmet. Its use is voluntary. Snell has been testing helmets since the 1950's. Their standards have been revised six times (most recently in 1985 [ed. note. There is now a new standard, 1990, I believe]) as helmet design and manufacturing techniques have improved. They attempt to reproduce, under test conditions, the circumstances that represent potential hazard to motorcyclists. For instance, Snell has begun using a more realistic penetration test. Instead of testing penetration with the needle-like projectile the other agencies use, Snell employs a steel I-beam shaped like a highway guard rail. Snell also tests the chin piece in full-face helmets.
American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
The 1979 ANSI z90.1 standard is more stringent than the DOT standard but less demanding than the Snell Foundation's requirements in terms of impact and penetration resistance [ed. note. This may no longer be true, as the DOT standard has been updated]. The ANSI sticker is usually located on the inside of the helmet. The ANSI requirement is a voluntary standard developed by a committee or representatives from consumer groups, helmet manufacturers, testing organizations and the military.
Choosing a helmet
A safety helmet consists of four primary elements:

1. the outer shell
2. a shock-absorbing liner
3. a comfort liner of soft foam and fabric
4. a chin strap or other retention system

While color, design and price may influence your decision about which helmet to buy, protection should be your first consideration. The full face helmet provides the most protection since it covers more of your face. Recent design improvements in shell material and interior ventilation have improved comfort.

The next choice in protection is the three-quarter helmet. It doesn't offer the face and chin protection that full-face helmets do, but some riders prefer it.

Helmet shells are primarily manufactured in one of two materials: fiberglass or injection molded plastic. Helmet manufacturers are constantly working to develop less expensive, stronger, and lighter materials for helmet shell construction.

The injection molded plastic helmet generally is the lightest and least expensive available today. It may also have a shorter life expectancy. Its chemical composition can be changed if it is painted or decals are applied to its surface. Damage can occur if it is stored near gasoline, cleaning fluids, or exhaust fumes. The user should read carefully any and all information supplied with these helmets.

Fiberglass helmets can be more expensive than injected molded helmets,especially if the fiberglass layers are hand laminated. Fiberglass helmets delaminate on impact to absorb shock. You can paint them or apply decals without damage. However, because they are build to absorb shock, they can also break or crack if severely impacted in an accident, a fall or even if dropped sharply onto a hard surface.

The helmet liner is made of expanded polystyrene foam (or "Styrofoam"). This is an important part of the helmet, as this polystyrene liner is non-resilient and evenly spreads the impact in an accident. The more impact energy that can be absorbed by the liner, the less there is of that shock energy to reach the head and do damage.

One look around your dealer's helmet display will convince you that nearly any color and decoration you could want on a helmet is already available. Many manufacturers are color coordinating their helmets with the newest motorcycle models. Choose a bright colored helmet for maximum visibility to motorists.
Getting the Right Fit
There's more to fitting a helmet than just buying the one that matches your hat size or guessing at small, medium, or large. Your hat size is a good starting pointer, however, if you don't know your hat size, you can use the chart below. Measure your head at its largest circumference - usually just above your eyebrows in front, over your ears and around to the back. You may need to take severely measurements to get the largest one. If your head size falls between the numbers listed, use the next largest hat size. Since some helmets are simply marked as S, M, L, or XL, you may need to contact the helmet manufacturer for size equivalencies, as they vary.
Inches Hat Size
21 1/4 6 3/4
21 5/8 6 7/8
22 7
22 3/8 7 1/8
22 3/4 7 1/4
23 1/8 7 3/8
23 1/2 7 1/2
23 7/8 7 5/8
24 1/4 7 3/4
24 3/4 7 7/8
Here's the best way to try on your helmet:

* Hold it by the chin straps. The front of the helmet should face you with the top pointing down.
* Put your thumbs on the inside of the straps, balancing the helmet with your fingertips.
* Spread the sides of the helmet apart slightly and slip it down over your head.
* The helmet should fit snugly and may even feel a bit too tight until it's in place correctly. Be sure it sits squarely on your head. Remember, if your helmet is too large it can be very annoying to wear because it's noisy and lets in the wind. And, in the even of an accident, it may come off!
* Once the helmet is on your head, make a few other checks of its fit, before fastening the chin strap.
* The cheek pads should touch your cheeks without pressing uncomfortably.
* There should be no gaps between your temples and the brow pads.
* If the helmet has a neck roll, it shouldn't push the helmet away from the back of your neck.
* With the helmet still on and securely fastened, move it from side to side and up and down with your hands. If it fits right, your skin should move as the helmet is moved. You should feel as if a slight, even pressure is being exerted all over your head by the helmet. Remember too, that a helmet gets "broken in" as you use it, so a new one should be as tight as you can comfortably wear it.
* Now, with the chin strap still securely fastened and your head straight, try rolling the helmet forward off your head. You shouldn't be able to pull it off. If you can the helmet is too big.
* Take off the helmet. Does your head feel sore anywhere. Are there any red spots on your forehead? Pressure points can be uncomfortable and can cause a headache after a long ride, so be sure your helmet isn't causing any. If it is, choose the next larger size or try a different brand of helmet.

If you're still unsure about the helmet's fit, wear it around the store for a while to make sure it is completely comfortable. A helmet is an important investment, no matter what its price. Be sure the one you choose is right for you.
A word About Chin Straps
Always fasten your helmet's chin strap or other retention system snugly. A helmet will do you no good if it comes off during an accident.
Replacing your helmet
Plan to replace your helmet if it has been involved in an accident. Some helmet manufacturers will inspect and, when possible, repair a damaged helmet. If your helmet has been dropped and you think it might be damaged, you may want to take advantage of this service.

Most helmet manufacturers recommend that, under normal use, you should replace your helmet every two to four years. If you notice any signs of damage before then, replace it sooner. As mentioned above, fiberglass helmets may crack or break if dropped. And, if you see any light brown spots near the rivets of a polycarbonate helmet, it is probably damaged and should be replaced.

Why replace a helmet every few years if it doesn't appear damaged? Its protective qualities may deteriorate over time. The interior padding compresses, offering less protection. The chin strap may fray or loosen at its attaching points. And the shell may be chipped or banged. Probably the best reason, however, is the constant improvements in design and protective qualities of helmets. Chances are the helmet you buy in a couple of years will be better than the one you have now - even if the cost is about the same.

Since 1974, all helmet manufacturers must stamp the month and date of production on the helmet's chin strap. If you can't remember when you bought your present helmet, just check the strap. If there's no date at all, you definitely should replace your helmet now.

Tips on Helmet Care

Follow the manufacturer's direction on caring for your helmet. Use only the mildest soap recommended. Avoid any petroleum-based cleaning fluids, especially if you own a polycarbonate helmet. Exposure to strong cleaning agents can cause the polycarbonate helmet to decompose and lose protective value.

Never hang your helmet on the motorcycle's mirror, turn signals, or sissy bar. The inner liner can easily be damaged from such handling and may lose its protective qualities. In fact, avoid carrying a spare helmet on your cycle, unless it's carefully protected or on your passenger's head. Even the bumps and jarring from normal riding can easily damage a spare helmet carried on your cycle.

Before you do any of your own helmet decorating, such as painting, pinstriping,or applying decals, check the manufacturer's recommendations. Follow them closely.

If you plan to use a CB radio when you ride, find a model that doesn't necessitate drilling speaker holes in your helmet. Even a tiny hole can spread and weaken the helmet's structure. Before you purchase your speakers, check your state's laws regulating their use in helmets. Some states prohibit them altogether.
Retroreflective Helmets
Many states require a specific amount of retroreflective material on a reflective helmet. Check with your dealer to be sure the helmet you plan to purchase meets the requirements or won't be damaged if you apply retroreflective tape to it. Your local motor vehicle department can give you exact information on the location and number of square inches, of retroreflective material required in your state. The Motorcycle Safety Foundation has two styles of retroreflective decals available for use on helmets.

There are many considerations when deciding which helmet to buy. Talk with an MSF-registered motorcycle safety instructor, your local motorcycle dealer, other riders, and consult recent motorcycle enthusiast magazines for the most up-to-date information to help in your decision.

Copyright MSF, March 1988

Remember,
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.

By-Tor
05-19-2004, 08:00 PM
Yeah, So there :!: :D

cbrjimmy1KRR
05-19-2004, 09:05 PM
Yeah, So there

pip before :rage: .......and after :eathit:

:D

Anonymous
05-20-2004, 06:05 AM
like i dont know they protect your head

still just styrofoam and plastic, they could put more tech into these things i find it hard to beleive 50 year old technology is the best available, i bet nasa pilots and fighter pilots wearem too huh?

RippinCBR
05-20-2004, 10:58 AM
Thanks for the info guys....

:? PIP your one dumb fuck :stupid:

CBR-RR-XX-CESS
05-20-2004, 11:36 AM
like i dont know they protect your head

still just styrofoam and plastic, they could put more tech into these things i find it hard to beleive 50 year old technology is the best available, i bet nasa pilots and fighter pilots wearem too huh?

Yes ,styrofaom and plastic is still used to absorb impacts,must be the best available

http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/k-4/home/F_k-4_superbowl.html

Anonymous
05-20-2004, 12:23 PM
you just proved my point, tech from when>? 30-40 years ago

it doesnt say shit about pilots and astronauts and shit using that now for impact safety

the fact is styrofoam is the cheapest shit around they can mass produce and it helps, its not technologically advanced, just enough so it saves SOME lives, enough so they dont get sued, and they retain a huge fat profit margin

fuck them, i will never purchase a helmet new, and by the way, asshat, i pay attention to what the fuck i do ive never wrecked anything or been in an accident ever, or even come close, dont talk shit about what you dont know

By-Tor
05-20-2004, 12:37 PM
Yeah, So there :!: :D

CBR-RR-XX-CESS
05-20-2004, 01:46 PM
, and by the way, asshat,

Someone forgot to teach you to respect your elders

You kinda missed my whole point there sonny,Just did not want a new rider buying the cheapest POS helmet and think it is ok to wear and be confident it will protect. Some will take you seriously,you do have alittle responsibility with your posts. I be done with pipy
:) All in good fun,all in good fun

gntbldr
05-20-2004, 03:21 PM
Thanks for the words General. I'm going to look into a Shark helmet for my next one.
My arai doesn't fog up too much but it still fogs up.

Anonymous
05-20-2004, 04:04 PM
I WEAR THE BEST BUT PAYING them directly only fuels the fires of ignorance, and if someone does not understand the concept of you get what you pay for, retail, they are going to have to learn on their own thats common sense

point still remains, this is outdated technology you all support, and i refuse to do it because its just lining some douche bag executives pockets and hes probably sniffing lines of coke of some 13 year old italian girls ass on his 70 ft boat while you buy a shiny fuckin peice of plastic?

sorry, not gonna help them out

nutty954rr
05-21-2004, 07:41 AM
[quote]i pay attention to what the fuck i do ive never wrecked anything or been in an accident ever, or even come close, dont talk shit about what you dont know[quote]
pip i have recked on the track as well as the street hard and the one think that has saved my live is my helmet. your dome is the most important thing dont use cheap shit to protect it. also there are only two kinds of riders in this world those who have gone down and those who will go down :? . every one crashes its a fact of riding if you dont want to crash get off the bike other wise hold on and shut up :!: :D

cbrjimmy1KRR
05-21-2004, 08:26 AM
also there are only two kinds of riders in this world those who have gone down and those who will go down

watched Biker Boyz 1 too many times there nutty?? :P

seriously, i would rather have something on my head that fits and i know is a good and trusted brand. it'd be (and has been) worth it for me to fatten up somebody else's wallet, at least i'm still here after sliding on the face shield and flipping for 200+ feet :eek:

i know, gnt, not as far as you, but then again......you're a MAD MAN :D

GeNeRaL
05-21-2004, 09:16 AM
Thanks for the words General. I'm going to look into a Shark helmet for my next one.
My arai doesn't fog up too much but it still fogs up.

I found a website in the UK that right now is giving 50% off on Sharks RSR line. They ship to the US as far as i can tell. i've emailed them regarding this, and i'll let you know when i hear from them.

My buddy got the Barros RSR in black/silver and its an amazing helmet. theres a great write up on them on www.helmetharbor.com too, check that out.

CBR-RR-XX-CESS
05-21-2004, 10:20 AM
Thanks for the words General. I'm going to look into a Shark helmet for my next one.
My arai doesn't fog up too much but it still fogs up.

I found a website in the UK that right now is giving 50% off on Sharks RSR line. They ship to the US as far as i can tell. i've emailed them regarding this, and i'll let you know when i hear from them.

My buddy got the Barros RSR in black/silver and its an amazing helmet. theres a great write up on them on www.helmetharbor.com too, check that out.

The black and silver is what I have been looking at,let us,me know what you find out and the website please,Thanks, JS

GeNeRaL
05-21-2004, 10:39 AM
Still no word, emailed them yesterday. if you wanna bombard them with some email, here's the site:

http://www.crescent-suzuki.com/clothing/listitems.asp?category=Shark

if you click the more info button it gives an email address and phone number to call. post up if you hear something before i do!

Badcbr
05-23-2004, 10:41 PM
http://www.helmetharbor.com/